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February 19, 2008
Links to Barack Obama's votes on IL's Born Alive Infant Protection Act

I'm receiving more and more email requests for corroboration of Barack Obama's votes on IL's Born Alive Infant Protection Act as state senator. So I'm going to write a permanent post.

obama.jpgI'm also posting, right, an August 25, 2004, Chicago Sun-Times cartoon by Jack Higgins, printed on page 49, pictorially admonishing Obama for his opposition to Born Alive.

A package of Born Alive bills was introduced three times during Obama's tenure.

The cornerstone bill was the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, which defined legal personhood. This definition was identical to the federal BAIPA which was drafted from the definition of "live birth" created by the World Health Organization in 1950 and adopted by the United Nations in 1955....

Here I will only post links to Obama's actions and votes on the cornerstone bill, the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. The bill number changed every year it was reintroduced.

2001

Senate Bill 1095, Born Alive Infant Protection Act

Obama's "no" vote in the Senate Judiciary Committee on March 28, 2001, is no longer available online.

Transcript of Obama's verbal opposition to Born Alive on the IL Senate floor, March 30, 2001, pages 84-90

Obama's "present" vote on the IL Senate floor, March 30, 2001

2002

Senate Bill 1662, Born Alive Infant Protection Act

Obama's "no" vote in the Senate Judiciary Committee on March 6, 2002, is no longer available online.

Transcript of Obama's verbal opposition to Born Alive on the IL Senate floor, April 4, 2002, pages 28-35

Obama's "no" vote on the IL Senate floor, April 4, 2002

2003

Senate Bill 1082, Born Alive Infant Protection Act

Democrats took control of the IL Senate with the 2002 elections. They sent Born Alive to the infamously liberal Health & Human Services Committee, chaired by Barack Obama.

As can be seen on the Actions docket, Obama held Born Alive on March 6, 2003, from even being voted on in committee. It is also important to note from the docket that on March 13, 2003, Obama stopped the senate sponsor from adding the lately discussed clarification paragraph from the federal BAIPA, to make the bills absolutely identical.

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Go Obama!

Posted by: Hal at February 19, 2008 7:07 PM



yep, you'll know them by their fruits...

Obama's father and stepfather were both Muslim, and the pastor of his church is a supporter of Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam.

And we wonder why he "loves" American babies so much.

ugh....

Posted by: Anonymous at February 19, 2008 7:34 PM



Obama's father and stepfather were both Muslim,
And we wonder why he "loves" American babies so much.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Yeah, what does that have to do with anything?

What do American babies have to do with anything?

Posted by: FetusFascist at February 19, 2008 7:47 PM



Why American babies are the bestest babies!

I've been going over to that Child Free site and yes, it does seem selfish to give birth to a child when their are so many out there that need to be adopted.

Ah well I suppose it's cheeper...

Posted by: Jess at February 19, 2008 7:56 PM



Barack Obama's twisting of the English language in his mauling over the "born alive" bill is so typical of what Planned Parenthood wants in a candidate.

This man must be stopped at the election booth.

He is very, very dangerous to the anti-abortion cause.

He is not a Christian as he claims to be but has sold out to the lust for power.

Posted by: HisMan at February 19, 2008 8:10 PM



yep, you'll know them by their fruits...

Obama's father and stepfather were both Muslim, and the pastor of his church is a supporter of Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam.

And we wonder why he "loves" American babies so much.

ugh....

Posted by: Anonymous at February 19, 2008 7:34 PM
...............................

Know them by their fruit eh? Did you inherit your daddy's white robe and his favorite spittoon? How did your daddy 'love' dem babies? As often as possible?

Posted by: Sally at February 19, 2008 8:14 PM



HisMan! I've missed you!

Posted by: Anonymous at February 19, 2008 8:14 PM



Sally,
I'd love to answer you, but your post didn't make a lick of sense to me.

Care to re-phrase?

Posted by: Anonymous at February 19, 2008 8:16 PM



Heck, 70% of the women who have abortions are Christians. What does that have to do with anything?

Posted by: FetusFascist at February 19, 2008 8:29 PM



The "Born Alive" deal has contexts - all of which I'm not aware of. I don't see much disagreement about babies which are actually "born alive," overall.

Posted by: DumbOldUltimateGhoul at February 19, 2008 9:33 PM



"This man must be stopped at the election booth.

He is very, very dangerous to the anti-abortion cause."

well, you and all your friends make sure you get out to vote for McCain.


Posted by: Hal at February 19, 2008 9:36 PM



Guys, Tiller case development, check it out:

here

Posted by: Dan at February 19, 2008 9:41 PM



Laura: Heck, 70% of the women who have abortions are Christians. What does that have to do with anything?

Exactly. When a given person is actually in the situation, they often see that ending the pregnancy is the best way to do, regardless of their various affiliations and what they may have said in the past.

Doug

Posted by: Doug at February 19, 2008 10:06 PM



Anybody recognize the Flatiron Building?



Posted by: Doug at February 19, 2008 10:50 PM



that's not the flatiron building

Posted by: hal at February 19, 2008 11:04 PM



Never, ever count the Clintons out. They're tough and sly.

(I'm not kidding. Wasn't I the one who said McCain would be the Republican nominee 4 months ago when he was polling at 3%? That he was the only Republican I feared?)

Posted by: FetusFascist at February 19, 2008 11:15 PM



Laura, I don't count the Clintons out yet. She'd be a fine president, but I'm much more excited about Senator Obama.

Posted by: hal at February 19, 2008 11:37 PM



Anon:

Thanks.

My computer went down and was in the shop for a week. Then it took a while to restore all the files.

I'd think I'd rather listen to Hillary blabber than go through that again. At least I could day dream and then snap back into reality without much harm or stress.

Hal:

Obama is a used car saleman. All show and no substance. McCain will have him for lunch. I mean did you hear what his wife said tonight about her never being so proud to be an American? What planet does this guy and his wife live on? He talks about ending the violence in Darfur and in the same breath ending the Iraq war. How's he gonna do that, by sending over the Pillsbury dough boy? And all you pro-aborts buy this stuff. What is it that you liberal guys sniff? Is it that Kennedy whiskey maybe?

This guy was educated in the Ivy League? I'm really, really glad my son didn't go to Harvard.

Posted by: HisMan at February 20, 2008 12:41 AM



I don't mean to ruin this topic but I have to rant:
I was talking with a girl I just meet tonight and mentioned I had a boyfriend. My RA comes by and says, "Yeah the Chinese one." So I said, trying to keep my cool, "He's half Chinese and half Thai but he is an American, born here same as you and me." And she started with oh well he looks Chinese and too bad we don't have Asians here to do our nails and whatever so I freaked out on her calling her what she is, a racist. She didn't seem to think there was anything wrong with it though, she said she only said that because he was my boyfriend. I asked if her she would say racist stereotypes about him if he was African American and she said of course she would. So I started yelling about how people are people no matter the skin color and she's being racist and it's unacceptable no matter the reason. I then sent her this message:
Before you say something negative about a race, think if you would say it to a person of that race. If you wouldn't say it to a person of that race then don't say it at all. I'm sure you wouldn't like someone of another race going around telling everyone that wet white people smell like wet dog. I'm just asking you to treat others the way you would like to be treated. Whether a person is Black, White, Asian they are still people just like you and me and they deserve the same amount of respect

I'm just about to have a spazzz attack. Why was this person given a position of power in my college????

Posted by: Jess at February 20, 2008 1:57 AM



Jess,
deep breaths....

Posted by: Anonymous at February 20, 2008 2:23 AM



I want my Mom. Or Bjork.

Posted by: Jess at February 20, 2008 2:26 AM



I shall don my lovely swan dress just to cheer you up: http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42597000/jpg/_42597075_bjork_swan_ap.jpg

Anyway, that kind of bigotry is everywhere. I don't suppose you read the second post on this very thread. (Scroll up^)
Apparently Muslims aren't American.

Posted by: FetusFascist at February 20, 2008 2:44 AM



Laura: Heck, 70% of the women who have abortions are Christians. What does that have to do with anything?

Exactly. When a given person is actually in the situation, they often see that ending the pregnancy is the best way to do, regardless of their various affiliations and what they may have said in the past.

Doug

Posted by: Doug at February 19, 2008 10:06 PM
***************
Doug,
Christian is supposed to mean much more then an affiliation. A Christian is supposed to serve Jesus by serving his fellow man.

As Christians, our strength is in praying to God each day and reflecting on the Holy Gospel. It sounds like a pretty simple discipline but so many Christians fall away from it. I would venture that virtually 0% of those Christians who choose to end their pregnancies actually gave God 30 minutes of each day (in the year prior)in prayer and meditation on life of Jesus.
Those who walk in the Light are life giving, not life taking.

Posted by: Truthseeker at February 20, 2008 2:56 AM



Judge not, that ye be not judged.. For with what judgement you judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how will thou sayest to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam from thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote from thy brother's eye. Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rent you. Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall e opened unto you. For everyone that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth, and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Matthew 7:1-8

Posted by: Truthseeker at February 20, 2008 3:53 AM



Jill,

What a great cartoon! The baby seems to be reaching out to God while Obama lashes out at Him. If you look carefully, you can see an angel's face next to God's.

Posted by: Janet at February 20, 2008 5:35 AM



Janet, I believe that's a baby next to God?

Posted by: Jill Stanek at February 20, 2008 6:48 AM



that's not the flatiron building

Hey Hal,

I was afraid of that....


Doug

Posted by: Doug at February 20, 2008 7:25 AM



she started with oh well he looks Chinese and too bad we don't have Asians here to do our nails and whatever

Jess, now that was a bit weird....

Doug

Posted by: Doug at February 20, 2008 7:27 AM



Doug, Christian is supposed to mean much more then an affiliation. A Christian is supposed to serve Jesus by serving his fellow man.

I suggest that allowing women the freedom they now have in this matter is doing that.
......

As Christians, our strength is in praying to God each day and reflecting on the Holy Gospel. It sounds like a pretty simple discipline but so many Christians fall away from it. I would venture that virtually 0% of those Christians who choose to end their pregnancies actually gave God 30 minutes of each day (in the year prior)in prayer and meditation on life of Jesus.

Maybe you're right - I don't know on that one.
......

Those who walk in the Light are life giving, not life taking.

Or not. Even going with the assumption of the biblical god, etc., I think there is a case to be made for not every single pregnancy being wanted, necessarily, and that any all-knowing God would already know what miscarriages will occur and when, as well as who will willfully choose abortion and when.

Doug

Posted by: Doug at February 20, 2008 7:31 AM



Thanks for putting this up, Jill. The U.S. has gone crazy, but is still not ready for Obama's support of infanticide. I'll assist in promulgating this information. A special missive needs to be directed to Oprah Winfrey. I wonder how much she knows about this. She'll bear responsibility for supporting this kind of candidate.

Posted by: KB at February 20, 2008 7:45 AM



Jill, thanks for collecting these links. I have a sick feeling that they'll be needed in the months ahead of us....

Also, let's tell it like it is. Once a fetus is born -- even if that birth happened during an abortion procedure -- that fetus becomes a baby by anyone's definition of the word. Some pro-lifers toss around the term "baby killer" to describe all pro-choicers, but it's usually inaccurate. In this case, however, it is sadly the best term to describe the man.

Barack Obama supports killing babies. Spread the word.

Posted by: Naaman at February 20, 2008 7:55 AM



Doug wrote:
I think there is a case to be made for not every single pregnancy being wanted, necessarily, and that any all-knowing God would already know what miscarriages will occur and when, as well as who will willfully choose abortion and when.

Poor theology, old bean. :)

Miscarriages are natural deaths. Of course God knows about them. He is omnipotent. All human beings will die someday. I'll die someday, and I'm sure that God knows both the time and nature of my death. That doesn't make it okay for you to kill me.

God also knows which women will choose to abort, just as you surmised. However, that doesn't mean He approves of their abortion. It simply means that He gives them free will, even though He knows they will abuse it. God's perfect knowledge does not excuse human evil. Jesus knew that Judas would betray Him ... He even told Judas about it before he did it ... but Judas was still guilty of great evil for what he did.

Posted by: Naaman at February 20, 2008 8:04 AM



FF,
I said AMERICAN babies, that does include all races, you know.

Posted by: Anonymous at February 20, 2008 8:08 AM



Or not. Even going with the assumption of the biblical god, etc., I think there is a case to be made for not every single pregnancy being wanted, necessarily, and that any all-knowing God would already know what miscarriages will occur and when, as well as who will willfully choose abortion and when.

oh doug, come on. That is a stretch. That's like saying that God knows beforehand about murders of adults, therefore God condones murder of adults.
Not every adult life was "wanted" by someone in the Bible. That doesn't mean that God wanted them dead.

Posted by: Bethany at February 20, 2008 8:28 AM



Those who walk in the Light are life giving, not life taking.

Procreation is the primary purpose of sex. Having sex in the context of a marriage ensures the best possible outcome for all parties concerned. The baby has two parents, the father takes responsibility for the child, the mother has a partner and support...

Granted that there are other functions of the sexual act. Just as duct tape was made to seal ducts, there are now books on the million and one uses for this sticky silver stuff. However, it's primary purpose was for sealing ducts.

If we agree that the primary (emphasize primary) purpose of the sexual act is procreation, then we can say that sexual union equals life.

We have perverted that however, and now the sexual act no longer serves it's primary purpose.

The sexual act now equals death. This is what we mean when we say we are going against the natural order of things. And this is why abortion is such an abomination. It perverts the natural, primary reason for one of the most important aspects of our humanness...and turns it from an avenue for life, to an avenue for death...

Posted by: mk at February 20, 2008 9:00 AM



While duct tapes primary purpose was for sealing ducts, it's other uses can also be beneficial, but when you use duct tape to silence a Jon Benet Ramsey you are not simply altering it's purpose, you are perverting it.

Posted by: mk at February 20, 2008 9:02 AM



I happened to listen to Obama's speech last night. This guy is promising a gravy train of government programs. After he is elected, I don't think I'll have to work any longer, everything will be free.

Posted by: jasper at February 20, 2008 9:17 AM



How 'bout it Jasper. He's going to reduce the cost of my health insurance by $2,500.00 per year. That means I'll be getting a refund from Aetna! woo hoo!

Posted by: Anonymous at February 20, 2008 9:25 AM



MK:

It's interesting how you say that abortion has now redefined sex as death.

It's satan's part of ultimate purpose to take that which is good and make it evil. Do you think he got 1/3 of the angels to follow him becasue they thought God was good and he was bad? I don't think so. Pro-aborts are similarly self deceived. Planned Parenthood practices exquisitely this very same satanically inspired art of deception and it is woven into their very name "Planned Parenthood", an oxymoron, and "pro-choice" (which is really pro-death).

That is what pro-aborts do (perhaps without realizing it or being able to admit it). They make that which is good, the creation of life, and turn it into that which is evil, death (and try to call it good). This is the very definition of blasphemy. And blasphemy is the type of sin which is the worst kind of sin becasue its aim and goal is to eliminate God Himself which, if successful, would destroy the entire Universe (since He holds everything together). Therefore, abortion, which is blasphemy, is ultimately an attempt to destroy God and all of creation.

We must not have a President who holds that abortion is acceptable and therefore good and tries to make it as good. Obama's charisma comes from the pit of hell itself and Oprah Winfrey is a similar false prophet who deceives many. You think it a coincidence thay they are so successful? I wouldn't trade anything they have for what they believe.

Here's my defintion of abortion again which I published last year and fits right into your thesis:

"Abortion is an affront to the creative nature of God, it negates God as Creator,

Abortion denies the power of God to right a wrong, it negates God as Redeemer,

Abortion makes that which is good, the birth of human life, into that which is evil, the death of human life, and then calls it good, the very definition of blasphemy,

Abortion negates the resurrection power of God as it takes flesh that is alive in it's earthly abode (the womb) and kills it, while God takes that flesh which is dead in it's earthly abode (the grave) and desires to make it alive,

Abortion's desire is to take that which was composed from the chaotic array of elemental molecules into a symphony of life infused with an eternal soul, and turn it back to the entropy of randomness, chaos, nothingness, uselessness.

Abortion is against all that is hopeful, all that requires faith for success; for it's solution; annihilation, it's goal; death, it's dream; breaking God's heart, it's vision, Satan's ultimate power.

Abortion is a counterfeit, for the clawprints of Satan are everywhere to be found in its performance;

Abortion disguises hate as love, bondage as freedom, choice as maturity, sin as righteousness, political correctness as wisdom,

Abortion pits men against women, mothers against their children, fathers against God,
Yes, abortion is Satan's feeble attempt at killing God Himself, for abortion is a metaphor for Satan; it is his coat of arms, his family crest, his logo, his brand, it belongs to him......for he laughs at its willing proponents as they craft their own self-destruction, mantled in self-deception."

Copyright 2007, 2008 by HisMan

Posted by: HisMan at February 20, 2008 9:58 AM



"I mean did you hear what his wife said tonight about her never being so proud to be an American?"

Of course, this is an appropriate exercise of her freedom of speech (something, in itself, to be proud of in this country); however, it is unseemly and insulting for persons who aspire to be president and first lady of this country. Occupants of the White House should proclaim their love of and pride in this country, even when they disagree with those who held the post before them.

Obama's messiah complex is also unbecoming, and, I'm hoping, will ultimately be his downfall.

S.

Posted by: Anonymous at February 20, 2008 10:02 AM



Why don't all the child killers and enablers like Obama just go to China? They're socialist/Communist and their policies might find a home there. And we'd be rid of them.

Posted by: Chris T. at February 20, 2008 10:08 AM



Just a quick note - Hillary has not been able to attack Barack on this, because she needs the hard-core pro-abortion votes and lobby, just like he does. However, the majority of the American public is disgusted and appalled by partial birth abortion and by the fact that infants born alive after an abortion could just be shelved and left to die. Even many who self-identify as "pro-choice" find these two skeletons in the pro-choice closet to be abhorrent. However, political expedience meant that Hillary could not raise the issue of Obama's votes on these issues (plus, she probably agrees with him!).

However, McCain will be able to raise this in the general election, it will be vetted there, and many people outside of the loyal democratic left-leaning base will find it to be sickening.

Just my thoughts.

S.

Posted by: Anonymous at February 20, 2008 10:11 AM



"I happened to listen to Obama's speech last night. This guy is promising a gravy train of government programs. After he is elected, I don't think I'll have to work any longer, everything will be free."

Not for you, Jasper. Hold on tight to your wallet - here comes president obama!

Posted by: Anonymous at February 20, 2008 10:13 AM



Anonymous:

Your analysis is right on.

McCain will eat Obama's or Hillary's lunch.

I can't wait for the debates.

Posted by: HisMan at February 20, 2008 10:23 AM



Hisman,

Exactly. C.S.Lewis says that nobody (or virtually nobody`think SoMG) chooses something because it is bad. Rather, they choose something bad because they perceive it as a good. In there minds they are reaching for something "good". As Doug would say, for them it is good.

However, you and I, and many others, believe in an objective good and can see that just because something appears "good" for you it doesn't necessarily follow that it is in fact, good.

This is why people can be so easily led to do "bad" things. They aren't actually seeking a "bad" goal, they are seeking a "good" end, but use a "bad" way to get it.

Which is why I harp so much on the difference between magic and miracles. Supernatural and preternatural.

One is illusion, and one is real/truth.


Posted by: mk at February 20, 2008 10:23 AM



Exactly, MK, the evil one knows that we humans gravitate towards what is good and beautiful, so anything that he uses to lure us away from God is not, on the surface, going to look *evil* or *ugly*. It's going to have the veneer of good and the appearance of beauty.

Choice looks good; who can be against it? Death and killing do not look good, so cover them with the veneer of choice and suddenly they look better.

S.

Posted by: Anonymous at February 20, 2008 10:30 AM



By the way, I forgot to mention, I love this cartoon. Kind of reminds me of that debate in which lightening struck just as Giuliani was talking about abortion!

And, the anonymous 10:11 post was me. (just to be consistent).

S.

Posted by: Anonymous at February 20, 2008 10:32 AM



Three american soldiers died today. Remember, George W. was PRO LIFE. So pro life he sent 4,000 americans to die. McCain is so pro life he has promised us more wars.....gotta love the blood on the hands of this Chickenhawk admin. So in November, go ahead and vote McCain in office...that way we will have some more kids not grow up with parents, some sisters lose some brothers, some parents out live their kids. It will be great!

Posted by: PeachPit at February 20, 2008 11:40 AM



Peach Pit,

http://www.argonunya.com/HypocrisyExposed.html

you and your kind have the blood of 49,000,000 unborn children on your hands.

Posted by: jasper at February 20, 2008 11:50 AM



"Three american soldiers died today. Remember, George W. was PRO LIFE. So pro life he sent 4,000 americans to die. McCain is so pro life he has promised us more wars.....gotta love the blood on the hands of this Chickenhawk admin. So in November, go ahead and vote McCain in office...that way we will have some more kids not grow up with parents, some sisters lose some brothers, some parents out live their kids. It will be great!"

Nice effort to change the subject. American soldiers CHOOSE to join the armed forces and most who joined post 9/11 KNEW that they would be deployed and WANTED to defend our country. I know because my husband is one of them. My guess is in your world as long as someone calls themselves "pro-life" you and people like you will find something irrelevant to attack them and say "oh how pro-life is that? ne-ne-ne". What exactly do you suggest we do about the threat to our country from islamofacists? Let me guess America deserves it because we are so capitalist, uncaring, and militant loving blah, blah, blah.

Posted by: tori at February 20, 2008 12:08 PM



Tori,
God bless you & your husband. Please tell him thank you, from me, and that I appreciate what he is doing for our country.

Posted by: JLM at February 20, 2008 12:43 PM



mk:9:00,

Those who walk in the Light are life giving, not life taking.

Procreation is the primary purpose of sex. Having sex in the context of a marriage ensures the best possible outcome for all parties concerned. The baby has two parents, the father takes responsibility for the child, the mother has a partner and support...

Granted that there are other functions of the sexual act. Just as duct tape was made to seal ducts, there are now books on the million and one uses for this sticky silver stuff. However, it's primary purpose was for sealing ducts.

If we agree that the primary (emphasize primary) purpose of the sexual act is procreation, then we can say that sexual union equals life.

mk: I'll never look at a roll of duct tape again in quite the same way. Great analogy!

Posted by: Janet at February 20, 2008 2:05 PM



"What exactly do you suggest we do about the threat to our country from islamofacists?"

Do we don't deserve it, but we could stop provoking them. Do you realize that worldwide we went from a few hundred trying to kill us to hundreds of thousands? Thanks for that, GWB.

Posted by: Hal at February 20, 2008 2:10 PM



All I'm saying is this.....war = death, abortion = death. You cannot be pro war and be pro life. We just bombed the hel$ out of muslim babies for 6 years...think we are safer? A vote for Obama is a vote for less deaths for Americans.

Posted by: PeachPit at February 20, 2008 2:27 PM



PeachPit,

I agree.

I'm pro-war (in some cases) and anti-abortion in all cases.

Posted by: Anonymous at February 20, 2008 2:50 PM



Doug is a failed Protestant who was raised by Protestants that made God into whatever they wanted. They produced a atheist, wanna be Epicurean, who measures life in a simple formula that decides that the correct decision in life, is made by pain lessened and pleasure(happiness) increased.
If you want Doug to do anything in life, produce pain in Doug, and watch the coward change his decision on any matter that lessens his pain.
If you want Doug to do anything in life, produce pleasure in Doug, and watch the coward change his decision on any matter that increases his pleasure.
Atheist are the best at rationalizing their decisions that always avoid pain, since pain produces nothing of worth but the desire to avoid any matter that produces pain.
Combine that with a early Fly Spaghetti Monster myth that concentrated on a God which defined happiness by a life of health, wealth and the power that comes from the other two, and you create a Doug.
This occurs from not having one, or all three blessings from their trinity mentioned above.
Which is why from Doug to the weak mind of FF, that sums up life as what goes around comes around, you find a simple minded,easy manipulated, Pavlovian dog, that only makes value judgements by measuring decisions on pain lessened and pleasure gained.
Abortion, the breakfast of cowards.


Posted by: yllas at February 20, 2008 3:29 PM



"We just bombed the hel$ out of muslim babies for 6 years...think we are safer?"

like hell we did. Al-Queda is responsible for the overwhelming majority of Iraq deaths.

Posted by: jasper at February 20, 2008 3:31 PM



Hmm, we have a bomb that targets babies? What is the name of this bomb that targets baby Muslims and avoids the Christian babies in Iraq?
Poor Peach Pit, a aspiring agitational propagandist throwing out such unbelievable propaganda that it is actually counter productive.
Stalin would have you shot for such counter productive propaganda.

Posted by: yllas at February 20, 2008 3:40 PM



Hal is displaying a natural form of cowardness which is common amongst abortionist.
Following his logic to its conclusion, every Nazi soldier that was KIA made millions more German's want to join the Wehrmacht.
Following his logic, every German that was KIA in the USSR was ready and willing to join his dead brothers on the front where death was assured.
Yep, coward Hal, and we gave those German's just what they wanted, to die for their cowardly leader who hung out in a hole in the ground, while his soldiers threw down their weapons in a mass surrender.
Getting the comparision yet Hal?
You know, where does UBL hide out while sending out his soldiers from God to slit the throat of infidels around the world?
Your ignorance is amazing Hal.

Posted by: yllas at February 20, 2008 4:08 PM






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